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Deep Powder and Steep Rock - visual
https://archives.whyte.org/en/permalink/descriptions55083
- Part Of
- Chic Scott fonds
- Scope & Content
- Photograph series consists of discs with reference scans of photographs pertaining to the research and creation of Deep Powder and Steep Rock.
- Date Range
- ca. 1950 - 2009
- Reference Code
- V40 / V
- Description Level
- 3 / Series
- GMD
- Photograph
- Part Of
- Chic Scott fonds
- Description Level
- 3 / Series
- Fonds Number
- M57 / V40 / S47
- Series
- V40 / V : Deep Powder and Steep Rock
- Sous-Fonds
- V40
- Accession Number
- 2015.8559
- Reference Code
- V40 / V
- GMD
- Photograph
- Date Range
- ca. 1950 - 2009
- Physical Description
- 53 discs with image files -- 6 cm of scanned photograph copies -- 62 reference slides : col. ; 35mm -- 27 reference photographs : col. prints
- History / Biographical
- Hans Gmoser played a major role in creating Canada’s vibrant mountain community. Although known internationally as the father of heli-skiing, he was much more than that: a talented rock climber, tireless expedition leader, a mountain guide, film maker and organizer. Deep Powder and Steep Rock presents an intimate portrait of this charismatic man. Much of the story is told in Gmoser’s own words, gleaned from his diaries, expedition journals, film commentaries and personal correspondence. It is a unique tale of adventure, hard work, perseverance and ultimate success.
- Scope & Content
- Photograph series consists of discs with reference scans of photographs pertaining to the research and creation of Deep Powder and Steep Rock.
- Name Access
- Scott, Chic
- Gmoser, Hans
- Subject Access
- Backcountry skiing
- Environment
- Landscapes
- Mountains
- Mountaineering
- Mountaineers
- Publication
- Recreation
- Research
- Skiing
- Ski mountaineering
- Sports
- Sports and recreation
- Winter sports
- Guiding
- Helicopter skiing
- Geographic Access
- Canada
- Alberta
- Banff National Park
- Canadian Rocky Mountains
- Access Restrictions
- for reference use only
- Reproduction Restrictions
- Reference only no reproductions
- Language
- English
- Related Material
- S47 / V
- M57 / V
- Category
- Sports, recreation and leisure
- Biographical Source Notes
- http://chicscott.com/books.htm
- Title Source
- Title based on contents of file
- Processing Status
- Processed / Unprocessed
This material is presented as originally created; it may contain outdated cultural descriptions and
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Powder Pioneers : Ski Stories from the Canadian Rockies and Columbia Mountains - sound recordings
https://archives.whyte.org/en/permalink/descriptions55075
- Part Of
- Chic Scott fonds
- Scope & Content
- Series consists of 23 interviews recorded between 1999 and 2009, which were used during the creation of the book Powder Pioneers : Ski Stories from the Canadian Rockies and Columbia Mountains.
- Date Range
- 1999 - 2009
- Reference Code
- S47 / IV
- Description Level
- 3 / Series
- GMD
- Sound recording
- Part Of
- Chic Scott fonds
- Description Level
- 3 / Series
- Fonds Number
- M57 / V40 / S47
- Series
- S47 / IV : Powder Pioneers : Ski Stories from the Canadian Rockies and Columbia Mountains
- Sous-Fonds
- S47
- Accession Number
- 8110
- Reference Code
- S47 / IV
- GMD
- Sound recording
- Date Range
- 1999 - 2009
- Physical Description
- 23 sound recordings
- History / Biographical
- Discover the rich history of skiing in the Canadian Rockies and Columbia Mountains of Alberta and British Columbia. From the early ski jumpers at Revelstoke, through the birth of the backcountry lodges and ski resorts to the heli-skiers and snowboarders of today, the stories are all here.
- Scope & Content
- Series consists of 23 interviews recorded between 1999 and 2009, which were used during the creation of the book Powder Pioneers : Ski Stories from the Canadian Rockies and Columbia Mountains.
- Notes
- Series consists of 23 interviews: S47 / IV / 1 : Syd Scroggle in Dundee
- S47 / IV / 2 : Hans Gmoser
- S47 / IV / 3 : Bob Sayer 16-Feb-02
- S47 / IV / 4 : Toni Klettl 15-Feb-02
- S47 / IV / 5 : Art Patterson 12-May-99
- S47 / IV / 6 & 7 : Hans Gmoser 29-Apr-04
- S47 / IV / 8 to 10 : Philippe Delesalle 28-Apr-04
- S47 / IV / 11 to 14 : Doug Gardner 19-May-04
- S47 / IV / 15 & 16 : Tony and Gill Daffern 06-Jan-04
- S47 / IV / 17 & 18 : Bob Saunders 08-Aug-09
- S47 / IV / 19 : Booty Griffiths 27-Oct-04
- S47 / IV / 20 to 23 : Steve Smith 04-Nov-04
- Name Access
- Scott, Chic
- Scroggle, Syd
- Gmoser, Hans
- Sayer, Bob
- Klettl, Toni
- Patterson, Art
- Delesalle, Philippe
- Gardner, Doug
- Daffern, Tony
- Daffern, Gill
- Griffiths, Booty
- Smith, Steve
- Subject Access
- Community events
- Banff Ski Club
- Mount Norquay Ski Area
- Banff Winter Carnival
- Biography
- Competition
- Cross-country skiing
- Helicopter skiing
- Interview
- History
- Leisure
- Mountains
- Publication
- Public events
- Public entertainment
- Recreation
- Research
- Ski areas
- Ski jumping
- Ski mountaineering
- Skiers
- Ski racing
- Skiing
- Sports
- Sports and recreation
- Winter sports
- Geographic Access
- Canada
- Alberta
- British Columbia
- Canadian Rocky Mountains
- Banff National Park
- Yoho National Park
- Jasper National Park
- Waterton
- Kootenay National Park
- Rogers Pass
- Columbia Valley
- Crowsnest Pass
- Language
- English
- Related Material
- M57 / VI
- V40 / VI
- Biographical Source Notes
- http://chicscott.com/books.htm
- Title Source
- Title based on contents of file
- Processing Status
- Processed
This material is presented as originally created; it may contain outdated cultural descriptions and
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Powder Pioneers: Ski Stories from the Canadian Rockies and Columbia Mountains - textual
https://archives.whyte.org/en/permalink/descriptions55080
- Part Of
- Chic Scott fonds
- Scope & Content
- Series consists of research notes, manuscripts, and other textual records pertaining to the creation of the book "Powder Pioneers" by Chic Scott.
- Date Range
- ca. 1990 - 2005
- Reference Code
- M57 / IV
- Description Level
- 3 / Series
- GMD
- Textual record
- Part Of
- Chic Scott fonds
- Description Level
- 3 / Series
- Fonds Number
- M57 / V40 / S47
- Series
- M57 / IV : Powder Pioneers: Ski Stories from the Canadian Rockies and Columbia Mountains
- Sous-Fonds
- M57
- Sub-Series
- M57 / IV / A: Reference Notes
- M57 / IV / B: Unabridged draft manuscript
- M57 / IV / C: Research files
- M57 / IV / D: Interview transcripts
- Accession Number
- 8110
- Reference Code
- M57 / IV
- GMD
- Textual record
- Date Range
- ca. 1990 - 2005
- Physical Description
- 85 cm of textual records
- History / Biographical
- Discover the rich history of skiing in the Canadian Rockies and Columbia Mountains of Alberta and British Columbia. From the early ski jumpers at Revelstoke, through the birth of the backcountry lodges and ski resorts to the heli-skiers and snowboarders of today, the stories are all here.
- Scope & Content
- Series consists of research notes, manuscripts, and other textual records pertaining to the creation of the book "Powder Pioneers" by Chic Scott.
- Notes
- Series consists of four sub-series: M57 / IV / A: Reference Notes
- M57 / IV / B: Unabridged draft manuscript
- M57 / IV / C: Research files
- M57 / IV / D: Interview transcripts
- Name Access
- Scott, Chic
- Subject Access
- Community events
- Banff Ski Club
- Mount Norquay Ski Area
- Banff Winter Carnival
- Biography
- Competition
- Cross-country skiing
- Helicopter skiing
- History
- Leisure
- Mountains
- Publication
- Public events
- Public entertainment
- Recreation
- Research
- Ski areas
- Ski jumping
- Ski mountaineering
- Ski racing
- Skiers
- Skiing
- Sports
- Sports and recreation
- Winter sports
- Geographic Access
- Canada
- Alberta
- British Columbia
- Banff
- Banff National Park
- Canadian Rocky Mountains
- Revelstoke
- Language
- English
- Related Material
- V40 / IV
- Biographical Source Notes
- http://chicscott.com/books.htm
- Title Source
- Title based on contents of file
- Processing Status
- Processed
This material is presented as originally created; it may contain outdated cultural descriptions and
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Powder Pioneers: Ski Stories from the Canadian Rockies and Columbia Mountains - visual
https://archives.whyte.org/en/permalink/descriptions55081
- Part Of
- Chic Scott fonds
- Scope & Content
- Series consists of scanned images used in the creation or final published version of Powder Pioneers: Ski Stories from the Canadian Rockies and Columbia Mountains.
- Date Range
- ca. 1990 - 2005
- Reference Code
- V40 / IV
- Description Level
- 3 / Series
- GMD
- Photograph
- Part Of
- Chic Scott fonds
- Description Level
- 3 / Series
- Fonds Number
- M57 / V40 / S47
- Series
- V40 / IV: Powder Pioneers: Ski Stories from the Canadian Rockies and Columbia Mountains
- Sous-Fonds
- V40
- Accession Number
- .
- Reference Code
- V40 / IV
- GMD
- Photograph
- Date Range
- ca. 1990 - 2005
- Physical Description
- Digital photographs
- History / Biographical
- Discover the rich history of skiing in the Canadian Rockies and Columbia Mountains of Alberta and British Columbia. From the early ski jumpers at Revelstoke, through the birth of the backcountry lodges and ski resorts to the heli-skiers and snowboarders of today, the stories are all here.
- Scope & Content
- Series consists of scanned images used in the creation or final published version of Powder Pioneers: Ski Stories from the Canadian Rockies and Columbia Mountains.
- Name Access
- Scott, Chic
- Subject Access
- Community events
- Banff Ski Club
- Mount Norquay Ski Area
- Banff Winter Carnival
- Competition
- Cross-country skiing
- Helicopter skiing
- History
- Leisure
- Mountains
- Photography
- Publication
- Public events
- Public entertainment
- Recreation
- Ski areas
- Ski jumping
- Ski mountaineering
- Ski racing
- Skiers
- Skiing
- Sports
- Sports and recreation
- Winter sports
- Geographic Access
- Canada
- Alberta
- British Columbia
- Banff
- Banff National Park
- Canadian Rocky Mountains
- Revelstoke
- Access Restrictions
- Reference only
- Reproduction Restrictions
- Restricted: copyright remains with creator of images, not the Whyte Museum
- Language
- English
- Category
- Sports, recreation and leisure
- Biographical Source Notes
- http://chicscott.com/books.htm
- Title Source
- Title based on contents of file
- Processing Status
- Processed
This material is presented as originally created; it may contain outdated cultural descriptions and
potentially offensive content.
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Ski Trails in the Canadian Rockies - textual
https://archives.whyte.org/en/permalink/descriptions55078
- Part Of
- Chic Scott fonds
- Scope & Content
- Series consists of research documents, published materials and maps used during the creation of the book Ski Trails in the Canadian Rockies.
- Date Range
- 1999 - 2015
- Reference Code
- M57 / VI
- Description Level
- 3 / Series
- GMD
- Textual record
- Part Of
- Chic Scott fonds
- Description Level
- 3 / Series
- Fonds Number
- M57 / V40 / S47
- Series
- M57 / VI: Ski Trails in the Canadian Rockies
- Sous-Fonds
- M57
- Sub-Series
- M57 / VI / A: Research Files
- M57 / VI / B: Collected publications
- M57 / VI / C: Maps
- Accession Number
- .
- Reference Code
- M57 / VI
- GMD
- Textual record
- Date Range
- 1999 - 2015
- Physical Description
- 18 cm of textual records
- History / Biographical
- The classic guidebook to cross country ski trails in Waterton, Banff, Kootenay, Yoho and Jasper National Parks as well as Mount Assiniboine and Mount Robson Provincial Parks and Kananaskis Country, now greatly expanded to includes ski trails in the front ranges of the Rockies, in the Crowsnest Pass and in the Columbia Valley. Jointly authored with Darren Farley. This book also covers topics such as accommodation, regulations, weather and snow conditions.
- Scope & Content
- Series consists of research documents, published materials and maps used during the creation of the book Ski Trails in the Canadian Rockies.
- Notes
- Series consists of three sub-series: M57 / VI / A: Research Files
- M57 / VI / B: Collected publications
- M57 / VI / C: Maps
- Name Access
- Scott, Chic
- Subject Access
- Activities
- Environment
- Exploration
- Geography
- Guide
- Map
- Mountaineering
- Mountains
- National parks and reserves
- Publication
- Recreation
- Ski areas
- Ski Maps
- Ski mountaineering
- Ski lodges and cabins
- Skiing
- Sports and recreation
- Sports
- Tourism
- Tourist information
- Trail guides
- Trails
- Travel
- Winter sports
- Geographic Access
- Canada
- Alberta
- British Columbia
- Canadian Rocky Mountains
- Banff National Park
- Yoho National Park
- Jasper National Park
- Waterton
- Kootenay National Park
- Rogers Pass
- Columbia Valley
- Crowsnest Pass
- Language
- English
- Related Material
- S47 / VI
- V40 / VI
- Title Source
- Title based on contents of file
- Processing Status
- Processed
This material is presented as originally created; it may contain outdated cultural descriptions and
potentially offensive content.
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Ski Trails of the Canadian Rockies - visual
https://archives.whyte.org/en/permalink/descriptions55079
- Part Of
- Chic Scott fonds
- Scope & Content
- Series consists of 3 CD's with photo scans pertaining to the creation of Ski Trails of the Canadian Rockies.
- Date Range
- 1999 - 2015
- Reference Code
- V40 / VI
- Description Level
- 3 / Series
- GMD
- Digital image
- Photograph
- Part Of
- Chic Scott fonds
- Description Level
- 3 / Series
- Fonds Number
- M57 / V40 / S47
- Series
- V40 / VI : Ski Trails of the Canadian Rockies
- Sous-Fonds
- V40
- Accession Number
- .
- Reference Code
- V40 / VI
- Date Range
- 1999 - 2015
- Physical Description
- Digital photo scans on 3 discs
- History / Biographical
- The classic guidebook to cross country ski trails in Waterton, Banff, Kootenay, Yoho and Jasper National Parks as well as Mount Assiniboine and Mount Robson Provincial Parks and Kananaskis Country, now greatly expanded to includes ski trails in the front ranges of the Rockies, in the Crowsnest Pass and in the Columbia Valley. Jointly authored with Darren Farley. This book also covers topics such as accommodation, regulations, weather and snow conditions.
- Scope & Content
- Series consists of 3 CD's with photo scans pertaining to the creation of Ski Trails of the Canadian Rockies.
- Name Access
- Scott, Chic
- Subject Access
- Activities
- Environment
- Exploration
- Geography
- Guide
- Map
- Mountaineering
- Mountains
- National parks and reserves
- Publication
- Recreation
- Ski areas
- Ski Maps
- Ski mountaineering
- Ski lodges and cabins
- Skiing
- Sports and recreation
- Sports
- Tourism
- Tourist information
- Trail guides
- Trails
- Travel
- Winter sports
- Geographic Access
- Canada
- Alberta
- British Columbia
- Canadian Rocky Mountains
- Banff National Park
- Yoho National Park
- Jasper National Park
- Waterton
- Kootenay National Park
- Mount Robson
- Columbia Valley
- Crowsnest Pass
- Access Restrictions
- Reference only
- Reproduction Restrictions
- Restricted: copyright remains with owner
- Language
- English
- Related Material
- M57 / VI
- S47 / VI
- Biographical Source Notes
- http://chicscott.com/books.htm
- Title Source
- Title based on contents of file
- Processing Status
- Processed
This material is presented as originally created; it may contain outdated cultural descriptions and
potentially offensive content.
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Summits and Icefields - textual
https://archives.whyte.org/en/permalink/descriptions55076
- Part Of
- Chic Scott fonds
- Scope & Content
- Series consists of textual records pertaining to the creation and publication of Summits and Icefields; includes research documents, maps and other related material.
- Date Range
- 2003 - 2012
- Reference Code
- M57 / III
- Description Level
- 3 / Series
- GMD
- Textual record
- Part Of
- Chic Scott fonds
- Description Level
- 3 / Series
- Fonds Number
- M57 / V40 / S47
- Series
- M57 / III: Summits and Icefields
- Sous-Fonds
- M57
- Sub-Series
- M57 / III / A: Research files
- M57 / III / B: Maps
- M57 / III / C: Collected publications
- Accession Number
- .
- Reference Code
- M57 / III
- GMD
- Textual record
- Date Range
- 2003 - 2012
- Physical Description
- 20 cm of textual records
- History / Biographical
- These are your dream books; “When the first snows fly in November, sit down in front of the fire and dream of endless powder slopes, dazzling icefields and wilderness cabins under northern lights.” Couloir Magazine called Summits and Icefields “The best guidebook yet published in North America.” Now available in two volumes (The Canadian Rockies and The Columbia Mountains) these books are a skier's guide to Rogers Pass, the classic ski ascents of the Rockies, the backcountry lodges, the grand traverses and much, much more. They also contain a taste of the exciting ski history of these ranges.
- Scope & Content
- Series consists of textual records pertaining to the creation and publication of Summits and Icefields; includes research documents, maps and other related material.
- Notes
- Series consists of three sub-series:
- M57 / III / A: Research files
- M57 / III / B: Maps
- M57 / III / C: Collected publications
- Name Access
- Scott, Chic
- Subject Access
- Geography
- Guiding
- Guides
- History
- Map
- Publication
- Recreation
- Research
- Ski Maps
- Skiing
- Sports and recreation
- Sports
- Trail guides
- Travel and Exploration
- Winter sports
- Geographic Access
- Canada
- Alberta
- British Columbia
- Rogers Pass
- Canadian Rocky Mountains
- Columbia Icefield
- Language
- English
- Related Material
- V40 / III
- Biographical Source Notes
- http://chicscott.com/books.htm
- Title Source
- Title based on contents of file
- Processing Status
- Processed
This material is presented as originally created; it may contain outdated cultural descriptions and
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Summits and Icefields - visual
https://archives.whyte.org/en/permalink/descriptions55077
- Part Of
- Chic Scott fonds
- Scope & Content
- Series consists of image scans pertaining to the creation of the book Summits and Icefields.
- Date Range
- 2003 - 2012
- Reference Code
- V40 / III
- Description Level
- 3 / Series
- GMD
- Digital image
- Photograph
- Part Of
- Chic Scott fonds
- Description Level
- 3 / Series
- Fonds Number
- M57 / V40 / S47
- Series
- V40 / III : Summits and Icefields
- Sous-Fonds
- V40
- Accession Number
- .
- Reference Code
- V40 / III
- Date Range
- 2003 - 2012
- Physical Description
- 24 CDs : digital photo scans
- History / Biographical
- These are your dream books; “When the first snows fly in November, sit down in front of the fire and dream of endless powder slopes, dazzling icefields and wilderness cabins under northern lights.” Couloir Magazine called Summits and Icefields “The best guidebook yet published in North America.” Now available in two volumes (The Canadian Rockies and The Columbia Mountains) these books are a skier's guide to Rogers Pass, the classic ski ascents of the Rockies, the backcountry lodges, the grand traverses and much, much more. They also contain a taste of the exciting ski history of these ranges.
- Scope & Content
- Series consists of image scans pertaining to the creation of the book Summits and Icefields.
- Name Access
- Scott, Chic
- Subject Access
- Geography
- Guiding
- Guides
- History
- Map
- Publication
- Recreation
- Research
- Ski Maps
- Skiing
- Sports and recreation
- Sports
- Trail guides
- Travel and Exploration
- Winter sports
- Geographic Access
- Canada
- Alberta
- British Columbia
- Rogers Pass
- Canadian Rocky Mountains
- Columbia Icefield
- Access Restrictions
- Reference only
- Reproduction Restrictions
- Restricted: copyright remains with owner
- Language
- English
- Related Material
- M57 / III
- Biographical Source Notes
- http://chicscott.com/books.htm
- Title Source
- Title based on contents of file
- Processing Status
- Processed
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1964 ski trip, skiing with friends
https://archives.whyte.org/en/permalink/descriptions55310
- Part Of
- Chic Scott fonds
- Scope & Content
- File consists of photographs pertaining to Hans Gmoser skiing with friends. Most photographs are from a 1964 ski trip between Toby Creek and the Bugaboos mountain range in British Columbia.
- Date Range
- 1964
- [1980 - 1990]
- Reference Code
- V40 / V / PA - 1 to 24
- Description Level
- 5 / File
- Part Of
- Chic Scott fonds
- Description Level
- 5 / File
- Fonds Number
- M57
- S47
- V40
- Series
- V40 / V : Deep Powder and Steep Rock
- Sous-Fonds
- V40
- Accession Number
- 2015.8559
- Reference Code
- V40 / V / PA - 1 to 24
- Date Range
- 1964
- [1980 - 1990]
- Physical Description
- 24 photographs : b&w and col. prints; 25 x 20 cm or smaller
- Scope & Content
- File consists of photographs pertaining to Hans Gmoser skiing with friends. Most photographs are from a 1964 ski trip between Toby Creek and the Bugaboos mountain range in British Columbia.
- Notes
- Photographs in file are accompanied by one page of handwritten notes pertaining to details of images from 1964 ski trip [PA - 1 to 21] and one copy of an Eaton's newspaper ad featuring an illustration of a ski jumper
- Name Access
- Gmoser, Hans
- McConkey, Jim
- Wiegele, Mike
- Grillmair, Leo
- Gertsch, Rudy
- Gmoser, Margaret
- Lemire, Pierre
- Subject Access
- Sports
- Recreation
- Skiing
- Ski jumping
- Mountains
- Landscapes
- Family and personal life
- Exploration
- Travel
- Winter
- Winter sports
- Geographic Access
- Canada
- British Columbia
- Toby Creek
- Bugaboos
- Canadian Rocky Mountains
- Reproduction Restrictions
- Restrictions may apply
- Language
- English
- Title Source
- Title based on contents of file
- Processing Status
- Processed
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Collected personal photographs, reference scans
https://archives.whyte.org/en/permalink/descriptions55291
- Part Of
- Chic Scott fonds
- Scope & Content
- File consists of 21 CDs containing digital image files which were collected from friends and family members of Hans Gmoser, for use in the creation of book Deep Powder and Steep Rock. Content pertains to Hans Gmoser's personal life and events with friends; skiing and other mountaineering trips; ima…
- Date Range
- 2006 - 2008
- Reference Code
- V40 / V / DF - 13 to 33
- Description Level
- 5 / File
- GMD
- Digital image
- Photograph
- Part Of
- Chic Scott fonds
- Description Level
- 5 / File
- Fonds Number
- M57
- S47
- V40
- Series
- V40 / V : Deep Powder and Steep Rock
- Sous-Fonds
- V40
- Accession Number
- .
- Reference Code
- V40 / V / DF - 13 to 33
- Date Range
- 2006 - 2008
- Physical Description
- 21 recording discs with digital files
- Scope & Content
- File consists of 21 CDs containing digital image files which were collected from friends and family members of Hans Gmoser, for use in the creation of book Deep Powder and Steep Rock. Content pertains to Hans Gmoser's personal life and events with friends; skiing and other mountaineering trips; images from a trip to Austria with Chic Scott, Margaret Gmoser and others; trips to Yoho, the Bugaboos and Mount McKinley; and other personal events.
- Notes
- Most discs in file include related handwritten notes [by Chic Scott?] and scanned paper copies of images on discs.
- Subject Access
- Skiing
- Mountains
- Mountaineering
- Winter sports
- Sports
- Recreation
- Family and personal life
- Entertainment
- Travel
- Hiking
- Geographic Access
- Canada
- Alberta
- Bugaboos
- Banff
- Canadian Rocky Mountains
- Mount McKinley
- British Columbia
- Yoho National Park
- Austria
- Reproduction Restrictions
- Restrictions apply - reference use only
- Language
- English
- Title Source
- Title based on contents of file
- Processing Status
- Processed
This material is presented as originally created; it may contain outdated cultural descriptions and
potentially offensive content.
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