File consists of photographs pertaining to businesses, tourist attractions and natural views in and around Banff. Includes images of backcountry camps in Banff National Park; the Bow River Boat House; Beaver Lodge and Bampton Cottage [both located on Beaver Street in Banff]; fires at Breton Hall Ho…
50 photographs ; b&w prints ; 25 x 20.5 cm or smaller
Scope & Content
File consists of photographs pertaining to businesses, tourist attractions and natural views in and around Banff. Includes images of backcountry camps in Banff National Park; the Bow River Boat House; Beaver Lodge and Bampton Cottage [both located on Beaver Street in Banff]; fires at Breton Hall Hotel and Banff Springs Hotel; the Park Museum and Information Bureau; early views of Banff Springs Hotel [1904]; Vermillion River Bungalow Camp and the Lake Louise Chalet; Paddy J. Nolan’s home [built by Norman Luxton]; a postcard print titled “Starved Bachelors Retreat Banff Alberta"; swimming at the Cave and Basin[?] and Banff Upper Hot Springs; the Crag and Canyon office [ca.1905]; Skoki Lodge; and the office of photographers Wilson and Fear [1896-1898].
Notes
Photographs LUX/I/D6c/PA-181 and 182 [depicting Wilson and Fear storefront] are copies of the same image but annotated with different dates [ca.1896 and ca.1898]. Based on context and dating of related images in Whyte Museum archives, actual image date may be closer to [ca.1894].
Material Details
LUX/I/D6c/PA-173 has three red sun-shaped stickers attached to back left corner, red ribbon attached to back right corner
File consists of 34 photographs pertaining to businesses and other properties in and around Banff. Photographs depict individuals swimming at the Cave and Basin; a boathouse near the Bow River; several hotels, including Banff Springs Hotel, Chateau Lake Louise and the Mount Royal Hotel; Fairholme R…
34 photographs : b&w prints ; 25 x 20 cm or smaller
Scope & Content
File consists of 34 photographs pertaining to businesses and other properties in and around Banff. Photographs depict individuals swimming at the Cave and Basin; a boathouse near the Bow River; several hotels, including Banff Springs Hotel, Chateau Lake Louise and the Mount Royal Hotel; Fairholme Ranch; and other related views.
Item consists of 1 photograph album compiled by Frank W. Freeborn of New York City for the Alpine Club of Canada. The album pertains to a 1905 ACC trip in and around the Banff & Lake Louise areas and includes black and white photographs and colourized postcards, all of which are annotated in white …
1 album (112 photographs : b&w and col. ; 25.7 x 20.3 cm)
Scope & Content
Item consists of 1 photograph album compiled by Frank W. Freeborn of New York City for the Alpine Club of Canada. The album pertains to a 1905 ACC trip in and around the Banff & Lake Louise areas and includes black and white photographs and colourized postcards, all of which are annotated in white ink. A fleur-de-lis is stamped into the center of the front cover, a small adhesive paper with an "A" printed on it is adhered to the top left corner, and "1905" is written in white ink on the spine.
Item consists of 1 photograph album compiled by Frank W. Freeborn of New York City for the Alpine Club of Canada. The album pertains to a 1908 ACC trip in and around the Lake Louise & Field, BC, areas and includes black and white photographs, all of which are annotated in white ink. A small white p…
1 album (159 photographs : b&w and col. ; 20.3 x 25.5 cm)
Scope & Content
Item consists of 1 photograph album compiled by Frank W. Freeborn of New York City for the Alpine Club of Canada. The album pertains to a 1908 ACC trip in and around the Lake Louise & Field, BC, areas and includes black and white photographs, all of which are annotated in white ink. A small white paper with "F" printed on it is adhered to the top left corner of the front cover and "1908" is written in white ink on the spine.
Item consists of 1 photograph album by the Alpine Club of Canada. The album pertains to ACC camps and climbs that took place during the summers of 1920 & 1921 throughout the Rocky Mountains, including the Banff, Sunshine, Assiniboine, Lake Louise, and Spray Lake areas, and includes black and white …
1 album (98 photographs : b&w and col. ; 32.5 x 25.6 cm)
Scope & Content
Item consists of 1 photograph album by the Alpine Club of Canada. The album pertains to ACC camps and climbs that took place during the summers of 1920 & 1921 throughout the Rocky Mountains, including the Banff, Sunshine, Assiniboine, Lake Louise, and Spray Lake areas, and includes black and white photographs, all of which are annotated. A black leather album, it has "PHOTOGRAPHS" stamped into the top left corner of the front cover with "1920 and 1921" written in white ink below it.
Fonds consists of two sous-fonds: M521 and V75.
M521 consists of four series, 154 cm, ca.1870-2002. Series I: Dorothy Wardle Personal Papers, 69.5 cm, ca.1870-2002 (includes Dorothy's written work and research and notes related to Banff). Series II: Wardle Family, 32.5 cm, 1872-1998 (including cor…
154 cm of textual records. -- 1304 photographs (1190 prints, 95 negatives, 19 transparencies). -- 6 photograph albums.
History / Biographical
The Wardle family was comprised of husband and wife, James Morey Wardle (June 26,1888 - May 18,1971) and Maud Leette (Roney) Wardle (May 24,1889 - December 1,1969), and their one child, Dorothy Hope Wardle (May 23,1919 - July 20,2003).
James Wardle, born in Chiliwack, British Columbia, was a civil engineer and public servant. He was the Superintendent of Banff National Park from 1918-1921, Chief Engineer for Parks Canada from 1921-1935, and Deputy Minister of the Interior from 1935-1936. He is primarily known as a highway design engineer, particularly for building the Banff-Windermere, Banff-Lake Louise, and Banff-Jasper highways. He was a councillor for the Municipality of Rockcliffe Park in Ontario and he was the President of the Trail Riders of the Canadian Rockies in Banff from 1925-1929. Mount Wardle in Vermillion was named after him in 1921. James married Leette on November 4, 1913, with whom he had one child, Dorothy.
Born in Calgary, Alberta, Dorothy (also known as Dot and Dorie) grew up in Banff, Alberta and Ottawa, Ontario, due to her father's position with the federal government. She was educated at the Mountain School in Banff and at the Elmwood School in Ottawa. All three family members were graduates of Queen's University in Kingston, Ontario. James graduated in 1912 with a Bachelor of Science in Engineering, Leette graduated with a Bachelor's degree, and in 1942, Dorothy also earned a Bachelor's degree. Dorothy was prominent in student life and active in athletics. In 1941, Dorothy became the first woman elected as President of the Alma Mater Society and during her academic career, Dorothy was a member of the Levana Intercollegiate Debative, University Centenary Committee, and Queen’s War Aid Commission.
Dorothy spent her career as a freelance writer however, upon graduation she served as the first Secretary-In-Charge of Records at Carleton College (now Carleton University) from 1942-1944 in Ottawa and in the mid-1950s worked as a secretary for the Glenbow Foundation in Calgary. Dorothy pursued a lifelong interest in traveling, art, and antiques. Although she was fiercely proud and protective of Banff and the Park, and remained a volunteer and patron of the Whyte Museum of the Canadian Rockies, Dorothy eventually settled in Sidney, British Columbia and shared an apartment with Sheila Iris Ritchie, with whom Dorothy travelled extensively. After her death in 2003, Dorothy, "Dorie," was laid to rest alongside her parents in the Old Banff Cemetery.
Scope & Content
Fonds consists of two sous-fonds: M521 and V75.
M521 consists of four series, 154 cm, ca.1870-2002. Series I: Dorothy Wardle Personal Papers, 69.5 cm, ca.1870-2002 (includes Dorothy's written work and research and notes related to Banff). Series II: Wardle Family, 32.5 cm, 1872-1998 (including correspondence with Carl Rungius and Mrs. Helen Brett, and Christmas and other greeting cards from Peter and Catharine Whyte). Series III: Queen's University, 7.5 cm, 1911-1980 (including graduation certificates for each family member and records pertaining to Dorothy's participation on the Alma Mater Society). Series IV: Travel, 44.5 cm, ca.1950-1988 (includes hand-written notebooks meticulously detailing their travels).
V75 consists of two series, 79.5 cm, ca. 1912-2001. Series I: Wardle Family, ca. 1912-1971, 6 albums, 31 cm of photograph prints and negatives (including family trips, trail rides in the Canadian Rocky Mountains, and family gatherings). Series II: Dorothy Wardle, 1972-2001, 34 cm of photograph prints, negatives, and transparencies (including Dorothy's travels in Alberta and British Columbia, overseas, and various outings with friends).
Sub-series pertains to 185 black and white negatives and includes group and individual portraits, weddings, scenic and landscape views, wildlife, sports, activities, businesses, buildings and facilities, and others.
Includes:
[1] - 2 Bill Wellman?, 1946
[2] - 12 [Mountain scenes] 1946 Nov.
[3] - 14…
185 photographs : b&w negatives ; 12.1 x 9.9 cm or smaller
History / Biographical
See fonds level description
Scope & Content
Sub-series pertains to 185 black and white negatives and includes group and individual portraits, weddings, scenic and landscape views, wildlife, sports, activities, businesses, buildings and facilities, and others.
Includes:
[1] - 2 Bill Wellman?, 1946
[2] - 12 [Mountain scenes] 1946 Nov.
[3] - 14 [Couple and baby] 1946 Nov.
[4] - 15 Girl at skating ring] 1946 Dec.
[5] - 17 River scenes 1946 Summer
[6] - 19 [Photographer at work] 1946 Summer
[7] - 20 [Two men] 1946 Summer
[8] - 21 [Man golfing] 1946 Sept.
[9] - 22 [Man fishing] 1946 Summer
[10] - 25 [Clouds] [1946?]
[11] - 26 [Interior of bus or train depot] 1946
[12] - 27 [Banff Indian Days parade] 1946 Summer
[13] - 28 [Banff Indian Days events] 1946 Summer
[14] - 30 [Banff Indian Days] 1946
[15] - 33 [Glass ball at Chateau Lake Louise] [1956?]
[16] - 34 [Scenes at Vermillion Lakes] 1946
[17] - 35 [Banff Indian Days] 1946
[18] - 38 [Views along Canadian Pacific Railway line near Banff] 1946
[19] - 39 [Man on glacier] [1946?]
[20] - 40 [Views along road near Banff] 1946
[21] - 42 [Bow Valley] 1946
[22] - 43 [Diving at Cave and Basin] 1946
[23] - 44 [Fishing] [1946?]
[24] - 45 [Car along road near Banff] 1946
[25] - 46 [Banff National Park east gate and Tunnel Mountain Campground gate] 1946
[26] - 47 [Train near Banff] 1946
[27] - 48 [Cave and Basin pool] 1946
[28] - 49 [Woman at Cave and Basin pool] 1946
[29] - 50 [Rocky Mountain sheep] 1946 Spring
[30] - 51 [Automobile on rails (near Banff?)] 1946
[31] - 53 [Tepees (at Indian Grounds?)] 1946
[32] - 54 [Buses at Johnston Canyon; view from near Johnston Canyon] 1946
[33] - 58 [Fishing] 1946 Summer
[34] - 59 [Man on horse (at Indian Grounds?)] 1946
[35] - 60 [Mountain views from along road, some including car] 1946
[36] - 61 [Rockslide?] 1946 Summer
[37] - 62 [Musicians at Banff Springs Hotel] 1946 Summer
[38] - 63 [Winter scene] 1945 Winter
[39] - 64 [Bow River and boathouse at Banff] 1945 Winter
[40] - 66 [Walking Buffalo] 1946 Summer
[41] - 67 [Deer family in Banff] 1946 Summer
[42] - 71 [Train at Banff Station] [1946?]
[43] - 75 [Couple hiking] 1946 Summer
[44] - 76 [Swimming pool at Chateau Lake Louise] [1946?]
[45] - 77 [Mountain scene] [1946?]
[46] - 78 [Musicians / concert at the Banff Springs Hotel] 1946
[47] - 80 [Horseback riding near Banff] [1946?]
[48] - 82 [Musicians / concert at the Banff Springs Hotel] 1946 Summer
[49] - 83 [Mountain scene] 1946
[50] - 84 [People feeding bears] 1946 Summer
[51] - 86 [Two men having drink] [1946?]
[52] - 87 [Oil industry material] 1946
[53] - 90 [Turner Valley? oil industry material] 1946 Summer
[54] - 91 Aircraft 1938?
[55] - 92 Army [tank] 1944 Winter
[56] - 93 Prince Albert [military equipment] 1944
[57] - 94 Edmonton, Pig Culls [packing plant] 1945
[58] - 95 Animals [bird] [ca.1945]
[59] - 96 [Beaver? Investigating backpack] [ca.1945]
[60] - 97 P.A. [Prince Albert military views] 1944
[61] - 98 P.A. [Prince Albert military views, mainly aircraft] 1944
[62] - 99 Mr. MacMillian, Indian Agent, Peigan Reserve, Brockett, Alberta 1945
[63] - 100 [Skiing at Mount Norquay] 1945
[64] - 103 [Winter scene] 1945
[65] - 103 [Military views, Prince Albert?] 1944
[66] - 104 [Dog team] [ca. 1945]
[67] - 106 For Pete LaGrandeur, Peigan Reserve, Brockett, Alberta [ca.1945]
[68] - 109 [Bow Lake? Copy negative] [ca.1945]
[69] - 111 [Highway road sign at Banff] [ca.1945]
[70] - 113 [Lake scene] [ca.1945]
[71] - 115 [Oil industry material] [ca.1945]
[72] - 116 [Bus driver and bus at Banff Indian Grounds [ca.1945]
[73] - 117 [Mountain views, rock and ice] [ca.1945]
[74] - 118 [Mountain views, including summit shots] [ca.1945]
[75] - 119 Mink [mink farm] [ca.1945]
[76] - 120 [Turner Valley, town, people, activities oil industry] [ca.1945]
[77] - 121 Wild horses [horse roundup?] [ca.1945]
[78] - 122 [Building, exterior and interior] [ca.1945]
[79] - 123 Indian camp [people, tepees, rodeo] [ca.1945]
[80] - 124 Fox culls [fox farm] [ca.1945]
[81] - 125 Seebe Dam culls [ca.1945]
[82] - 128 Fox [copy negatives of photograph of Bill Peyto and others on speeder in front of Banff Station] [ca.1945]
[83] - 129 Yellowknife [ca.1945]
[84] - 130 Tractor Train [northern post; dog sleds, moving equipment and supplies etc.] [ca.1945]
[85] - 131 Turner Valley [fire in oil field] [ca.1945]
[86] - 132 [Children in back yard] [ca.1945]
[87] - 133 Stampede [rodeo, Calgary and other location, possibly Morley] [ca.1945]
[88] - 134 Stock Yards [mainly train loading at stockyard] [ca.1945]
[89] - 135 Pigs [and pig farm] [ca.1945]
[90] - 136 Oil [industry] [ca.1945]
[91] - 137 Ottawa [ca.1945]
[92] - 138 Oil [industry] [ca.1945]
[93] - 139 [Military operations, Prince Albert area?] 1945
[94] - 140 [Military operations, Prince Albert area?] [ca.1945]
[95] - 141 [Lake scenes, not in mountains] [ca.1945]
[96] - 142 Exercise Eskimo, Canadian Army, Prince Albert [ca.1945]
[97] - 143 [Military parade] [ca.1945]
[98] - 144 [Measurement scale?] [ca.1945]
[99] - 145 [Camping, sailing] [ca.1945]
[100] - 146 [Man feeding bear] [ca.1945]
[101] - 147 [Ottawa military/social function; includes military band and personnel, dignitaries?] [ca.1945]
[102] - 148 [Duke friends and family?] [ca.1945]
[103] - 149 Wild horses [actually residential area of unknown city in winter] [ca.1945]
[104] - 151 [Man skiing] [ca.1945]
[105] - 152 [Banff house, front and back; woman in yard] [ca.1945]
[106] - 153 [Vermillion Lakes?] [ca.1945]
[107] - 154 Varsity Meet, Norquay 1947 Views of individual ski competitors; identified
[108] - 155 [Banff Winter Carnival, parade, queen events] 1947
[109] - 156 [Interior views, living room] [ca.1945]
[110] - 157 [Bow River; ice palace] [ca.1945]
[111] - 158 [Ski area] [ca.1945]
[112] - 159 [Skier; skiers receiving awards] [ca.1945]
[113] - 160 [Skiing; teams; skiers receiving awards] [ca.1945]
[114] - 161 [Baby and parents] [ca.1945]
[115] - 162 [Skis and boots] [ca.1945]
[116] - 163 Jack Oakie [man and woman] [ca.1945]
[117] - 164 Moxie Whitney and Jack Smith [actually photographs of baby] [ca.1945]
[118] - 165 Jack Smith [golfing, singing with band] [ca.1945]
[119] - 166 Jack Smith [singing with band] [ca.1945]
[120] - 167 [House in Banff] [ca.1945]
[121] - 168 [Man with skis] [ca.1945]
[122] - 169 [Winter mountain views at unknown ski area] [ca.1945]
[123] - 170 [Skiers] [ca.1945]
[124] - 171 [Winter mountain views at unknown ski area] [ca.1945]
[125] - 172 [Man on skis] [ca.1945]
[126] - 173 [Moose near Banff] [ca.1945]
[127] - 174 [Winter mountain view] [ca.1945]
[128] - 175 [Mount Assiniboine, buildings and mountain] [ca.1945]
[129] - 176 [Food supplies laid out in cabin] [ca.1945]
[130] - 177 [Girl in Girl Guide uniform] [ca.1945]
[131] - 179 [Canadian Pacific Railway passenger train at Banff Station] [ca.1945]
[132] - 180 [Group photograph taken by river] [ca.1945]
[133] - 181 [Swimming at Banff Springs Hotel outside pool] [ca.1945]
[134] - 182 [Wedding] [ca.1945]
[135] - 185 [Couple at Banff Springs Hotel] [ca.1945]
[136] - 190 [Winter mountain scene] [ca.1945]
[137] - 191 [Kids at ice palace] [ca.1945]
[138] - 192 [Winter scene, Bow River] [ca.1945]
[139] - 194 [Woman] [ca.1945]
[140] - 195 [Woman] [ca.1945]
[141] - 196 [Woman, children] [ca.1945]
[142] - 197 [Skiers] [ca.1945]
[143] - 198 [Winter mountain scenes] [ca.1945]
[144] - 199 [Banff Springs Hotel] [ca.1945]
[145] - 201 [Women in fur coats] [ca.1945]
[146] - 202 Mount Eisenhower [Castle Mountain] trip [ca.1945]
[147] - 203 [Golfing] [ca.1945]
[148] - 204 [Man at Mount Assiniboine] [ca.1945]
[149] - 205 [Skiing] [ca.1945]
[150] - 206 [Winter mountain scene] [ca.1945]
[151] - 208 [Lodge at Mount Assiniboine?] [ca.1945]
[152] - 210 Republic Seebe and canoe [airplane (delivering canoe?) at Banff] [ca.1945]
[153] - 211 [Mount Assiniboine area in winter] [ca.1945]
[154] - 212 [Ski touring, men with skis] [ca.1945]
[155] - 214 [Ski touring, men with skis] [ca.1945]
[156] - 217 Jack Thomas [Christmas card] [ca.1945]
[157] - 218 [Mount Rundle and cloud] 1948 Sept.
[158] - 220 [Man on top of ski lodge at Mount Assiniboine] [ca.1945]
[159] - 221 Wally Anderson Wedding [ca.1945]
[160] - 222 [Mount Norquay ski lodge and area] [ca.1945]
[161] - 223 [Bus on Mount Norquay road] [ca.1945]
[162] - 224 Ski Crowds, Buses at Station [ca.1945]
[163] - 226 [People in house] [ca.1945]
[164] - 227 [Train, tracks, other scenes, not in mountains]
[165] - 228 Lift Lock at Petersborough, Ont. 1948
[166] - 229 [Racetrack, possibly Calgary] [ca.1945]
[167] - 230 [People in house] [ca.1945]
[168] - 231 [Dam, not in mountains] [ca.1945]
[169] - 232 [People swimming in lake or ocean] [ca.1945]
[170] - 233 [Blurred shots of buildings on Banff Avenue?] [ca.1945]
[171] - 234 [Snow scene] [ca.1945]
[172] - 235 [Winter scene, Mount Rundle] [ca.1945]
[173] - 236 Carnival 1948 Feb 12-15
[174] - Varsity Meet, Banff 1948 Jan 31 – Feb 1
[175] - Carnival 1948
[176] - Drama 1948 Feb.
[177] - Official Opening, Dom. Championships 1948
[178] - Ski-Jumping, Dom. Champ. 1948
[179] - Slalom, Dom. Champ. 1948
[180] - Slalom, Dom. Champ. 1948
[181] - Ski-Jumping [1948]
[182] - Cross-Country, Dom. Champ. 1948
[183] - Finishing Flash [Dominion Championships] 1948
[184] - Album [skiers and buses at train station] 1948
[185] - [Various scenes; mainly Ottawa military functions, also perhaps some family material] [ca.1945]
Notes
Numbers without square brackets are Duke's original numbering - some do not have original numbers assigned to them.
Some files may have more than one negative.
File consists of 1 album with 226 b&w photographs and 9 colour photographs depicting everyday scenes of the Wing family around Banff. Includes photographs of the two eldest Wing children (Carole and Paul) as babies and young children. Album has 1 colour print of the Bow valley on front and is bound…
Photograph Album : 1 photograph album (235 photographs; b&w and col.).
Scope & Content
File consists of 1 album with 226 b&w photographs and 9 colour photographs depicting everyday scenes of the Wing family around Banff. Includes photographs of the two eldest Wing children (Carole and Paul) as babies and young children. Album has 1 colour print of the Bow valley on front and is bound with black cord. Plastic lacing around edges of album is broken in some parts. Images mostly adhered with photo corners.
Item consists of 1 photograph album compiled by Frank W. Freeborn of New York City for the Alpine Club of Canada. The album pertains to a 1909 ACC trip in and around Lake Louise, Banff, Lake O'Hara, and Field, as well as the Mt. Hood area of Oregon, and includes black and white photographs, all of …
1 album (194 photographs : b&w and col. ; 20.3 x 25.5 cm)
Scope & Content
Item consists of 1 photograph album compiled by Frank W. Freeborn of New York City for the Alpine Club of Canada. The album pertains to a 1909 ACC trip in and around Lake Louise, Banff, Lake O'Hara, and Field, as well as the Mt. Hood area of Oregon, and includes black and white photographs, all of which are annotated in white ink. A small white paper with "G" printed on it is adhered to the top left corner of the front cover and "1909" is written in white ink in the middle of the front cover.
File pertains to 47 letters and postcards written by Catharine Robb Whyte to her mother, Edith Morse Robb from July 1930 to October 1930. Topics include the trip back to Banff after marriage, day to day life, meeting and visiting Pete's friends, the Banff community and artists [including Bill Brews…
1.3 cm of textual records (82 pages ; 21.4 x 27.5 cm or smaller)
History / Biographical
See fonds level description.
Scope & Content
File pertains to 47 letters and postcards written by Catharine Robb Whyte to her mother, Edith Morse Robb from July 1930 to October 1930. Topics include the trip back to Banff after marriage, day to day life, meeting and visiting Pete's friends, the Banff community and artists [including Bill Brewster, Jim Brewster, Guy Davenport, Sid Graves, Sid Brewster, Mary Vaux Walcott, Jimmy Simpson, Byron Harmon, Fern Brewster, Wayne Palmer, Fred McCauley, Mrs. Brett, Julia Raymond, Pearl Moore, Edmee Moore, Philip Moore, J.E.H. MacDonald, Mr. and Mrs. Link, Mr. and Mrs. Painter, George Brewster, Jessie McLean, Buddy van Dyke, Dorothy Whyte, John Murray Gibbon, Carl Rungius, Fred Arbrister, Neil Begg, Rudolph Aemner,] painting outdoors, people in Concord, meeting Noel Odell of the 1924 Everest Expedition, a fire at a tea house in town, plans for building their home [including a sketch of the lots along Bow River], visiting Castle Mountain Camp and Kicking Horse Tea House, description of Skoki Lodge building plans [with Cliff White, Cyril Paris, and Ike Mills], and builders Earl Spencer and Spud White, and painting in Morley [Mrs. Twoyoungmen, John Simian or Black Buffalo, Jonas Richson [?], Dan Wildman and other illegible names], the climb to Abbot Pass, Lake Oesa, and Lake O'Hara Camp.
Notes
Please note: language pertaining to Indigenous Peoples, people of colour, and those of the Jewish faith used throughout is outdated and offensive. Some items were stapled together and therefore scanned together as one document.
Letters are all handwritten and include some hotel and camp letterheads. Some letters are marked with a small x in pencil, indicating where Jon Whyte made notes for use in his project "Catharine Robb Whyte, Peter Whyte: Commemorative Portfolio," originally published in 1981. Some letters also have numbers written in pencil crayon, believed to be from when originally processed.